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  •  Thu, Dec 15 2005, 5:22 AM 55538

    More nice words about NFLD from the mainland

    Yep, we have the Olympic curling team, deservedly so. Hmm, lets trot out some old and inaccurate newfie stereotypes. Gotta love the Toronto Sun.
    Sigh....



    Bill Lankhof
    Wed, December 14, 2005

    The Last Word

    By BILL LANKHOF




    It's the biggest thing to happen in The Land Cod Forgot since the invention of the pogey cheque -- Newfoundland's native son Brad Gushue will represent Canada in curling at the 2006 Olympics in Turin.

    The last time Newfoundland made such a big international splash the Titanic tried deep-sea diving.

    For Newfoundland, and for a sport looking for new blood, Gushue's victory is opportune because:

    1. The local sport of baby-seal whacking is no longer coming across on TV as a great spectator sport. Most Canadians don't mind the rough play, noting it's part of the game, but it's a hard-sell on American networks.

    2. Newfies finally have someone named Skip to look up to again whose livelihood doesn't depend on a cod fish to be born later.

    3. Newfoundland has Newfie Screech, ice, rocks.

    Curling? Booze, ice and rocks. Brad Gushue, The Natural. Coming soon to a National Film Board video.

    4. Gushue can dance. No Sharpies required. His victory jig looked like Glenn Healy had snuck up and given him a blast of the bagpipes from behind. Gushue reacted like a man making himself comfortable on a nest of yellow jackets.

    5. Locals now have something to chew the fat over --other than that yucky whale blubber they've been gnawing on for those CBC retrospectives the past 50 years.

    Bill Lankhof =

  •  Thu, Dec 15 2005, 6:26 AM 55539 in reply to 55538

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  •  Thu, Dec 15 2005, 6:32 AM 55540 in reply to 55538

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    I was totally pi*sed by this article!! I sent a nice little email to him about the article. He has the nerve to call it satire! I'd like to know what his definition of satire is!


    Makes my blood BOIL!!

    Aimee Smile
  •  Thu, Dec 15 2005, 6:57 AM 55541 in reply to 55538

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    So apparently Lankhof has a conscience. Here's what he wrote today:


    The joke's on us

    By BILL LANKHOF




    All is not well in Newfoundland. And, I think it's my fault.

    In a column yesterday, Brad Gushue's victory at the Canadian Olympic curling trials was examined with satirical wit -- or, at least that was the intention. Seems Newfoundlanders are not in any mood for either the satire or the wit.

    In short, they feel insulted. According to the e-mails, yours truly deserves to be fired. According to the phone calls I am "a racist" or "a bigot" or just a plain "ignorant son of a bitch." And, as one Newfoundlander noted, "You make my stomach turn."

    Thank you for noticing. Oops. There I go again. Being satirical and sarcastic. It's what this column is supposed to be about. According to the Concise Oxford Dictionary, satire is "Cynical observation of others; sarcastic, humorously critical." Unlike others, this column isn't supposed to be taken 100% literally, or seriously.

    And, having acquaintances from the eastern shores of our fair land I was under the impression that if anyone could laugh at themselves, it was Newfoundlanders. Apparently not. Yesterday, the St. John's Telegram called asking about running the article that had offended.

    The St. John's affiliate from CTV telephoned asking for an apology. I wonder if Andy Donato had this kind of thing happen when he painted Joe Clark with mittens?

    The local CBC called and suggested I had some explaining to do. They had an e-mail. Oh, horrors.

    Look people, I don't hate Newfoundlanders or think they all beat baby seals; I don't dislike Brad Gushue and I don't believe Easterners all down salted cod with Screech for breakfast. And no, it's not their fault the Titanic sank off their shores.

    There is nothing in my columns that readers don't see every week on the CBC's This Hour Has 22 Minutes. And, while I'm no Shaun Majumder, the tenor (if not the quality of humour) of my columns is no different than anything written for his show -- and most of that stuff is written by Easterners.

    I don't see them apologizing at the end of their shows for taking news and trying to get a giggle out of it.

    Satire by its very nature engenders different responses from different readers or viewers.

    I have, over the years, pilloried every team, every sport and just about every race. I've made jokes about my own Dutch heritage: You know, like the reason we wear wooden shoes is to keep the woodpeckers off our heads.

    If you take everything in my columns seriously, then someone is going to walk away angry every day. There are two ways that satire can be taken -- you can laugh at it, or you can get angry. I suggest the former is better for everyone.

    Someone once described satire as being nothing more than educated insolence.

    It is what I do. Sometimes I do it well. Sometimes, well ... the phone never stops ringing and I'm not sure if that's good or bad.

    So, I will tease Mapleholics for holding a parade down Yonge Street every time the Leafs win more than two in a row. I will suggest Tie Domi's knuckles are dragging when he behaves like a neanderthal. I will kid J.P. Ricciardi about the Jays being the Oakland A's farm team and giggle that Jason Allison is so slow he's the only guy in the NHL who could get called for delay of game on a breakaway.

    It's sports. It's supposed to be fun. Remember?

    There was the time the Raptors had a player named Vincenzo Esposito from Europe and it was suggested by some smarty-pants columnist that while it really was sweet of him to go around and introduce himself to all the opposing players before the game, the only thing the guy could throw up was a brick.

    That didn't mean I believed all Italians were good for was being a construction worker. It meant I was being satirical. They do it on Air Farce every week. Right there on the CBC.

    I will not apologize for anything that I have written but I do feel badly for people who feel they have been insulted. While it was not the intent, I can understand it. I obviously struck a nerve, which is generally what I try to do with my column.

    But I do think people should understand that sport, in most instances, isn't life and death. These are games we are writing about and I don't feel that it has to be taken and treated seriously 100% of the time.

    In this case, your complaints have been noted.

    ===========

    Aimee Smile
  •  Thu, Dec 15 2005, 7:04 AM 55542 in reply to 55538

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    That's got to be the clumsiest backpedaling I've ever seen. Common tactic, though. I've had housemates who'd call each other the most hurtful thing they could think of, then force a laugh and say "hey, it was just a joke." Back when public executions were the thing you took the kids to on a Saturday, horribly disfiguring the still-living convicts was considered genuinely hilarious - especially if their convulsions and screams were particularly dramatic. Humans have changed since then - most of us.

    Love, Colmbine
  •  Thu, Dec 15 2005, 7:53 AM 55543 in reply to 55538

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    He wasn't insulting a sport, as he is trying to say, he was insulting Newfoundlanders, and his explanation doesn't wash with me. I never saw any curling insults in there, it was all belittling Newfoundland. I mean, God forbid we NFLD'ers actually succeed at something, we'd get some pride.
    Michael Ryder may have to watch his back now.
    If a basketball team comprised mostly of african americans won a game and he said those watermelon eating jigga boos won inspite of their shoeshine schedule, I bet that would not go over well. He did the same thing about Newfoundland, and it pissed a lot of us off.

    There was no apology in there, he basically said lighten up and get a life. Thanks Bill.
  •  Thu, Dec 15 2005, 3:46 PM 55544 in reply to 55538

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    quote:
    Originally posted by futon:
    I mean, God forbid we NFLD'ers actually succeed at something, we'd get some pride.
    Michael Ryder may have to watch his back now.


    Do we really need other people from Newfoundland to succeed to have pride in ourselves and where come from. I proudly tell people I am from DILDO Newfoundland. I could care less what they say back. I am not successful I am just a nurse but I graduated from St. Clare's Mercy hospital School of Nursing and I am very Proud of that.

    I want to ask Russell Crowe how he feels playing next to someone who is as big a star as Alan. Not the other way around. But that doesn't make me any more proud of where I am from or the fact that I am a Newfoundlander.

    I am more proud to tell people about the kindness and generosity of Newfoundlanders, like sept 11,12,13,14/2001 and as long as those travelers were stranded in our province and what Newfoundlanders (the regular ones) did to help.

    I don't need anyone to put us on the map, we are already there

    "God made the rest of the world and a 1/2 hour later he got it right."

    Angie
  •  Thu, Dec 15 2005, 4:42 PM 55545 in reply to 55538

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    The pride thing wasn't my point, I'm as proud as anyone about being a Newfoundlander, I wouldn't have been poisoned about the article if I wasn't. I'm a nurse too, General Hospital grad, and very proud of being and alumnus of that very old school of nursing.
    No, we don't need anyone to tell us we're on the map. We could do without people crapping on us everytime we do something to get on the map tho, that's my point. I don't need praise from Toronto for a curling win, but I doubt if the other fella won we'd see a similiar mean spirited article.
    NFLD'ers did something very good, and someone saw that not as an opportunity to saw way to go fellows and good luck representing Canada at the Winter Olympics, they saw it as an opportunity to come out with stupid and inaccurate stereotypes about us instead ( who eats whale blubber anyway, that's more an Inuit thing, and good for them as it's part of their culture).
    This crap happens a lot and we shouldn't just say shag it, we should be mad about it. Any other racial ( for lack of a better word) sterotyping wouldn't be tolerated, and this shouldn't either.
    We do get pride from other NFLD'ers accomplishments. Hockey fans are proud of Michael Ryder, the whole province is practically glowing about Rex Goudie, we have many things, people and their accomplishments to be proud of. WE don't need ignorant mainland writers who reach millions of people with their drivel to knock us down for a bit of fun. That kind of stuff ignites my pride even further, and apparently it hasn't fired up a ton of people here.
    I'm disappointed all you got out of those posts was a sense that we have no pride or require other people to fuel our pride. We are proud and take pride in our fellow countryman's accomplishments. As we should.
  •  Thu, Dec 15 2005, 8:04 PM 55546 in reply to 55538

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    Well done!

    I absolutley agree with you by the way, about his article being a satire of the sport - nice try buddy!! His article was directed almost in it's entirety at Newfoundlanders and not at Curling. What a dick! Can I write that here?

    Anyway - I visited Newfoundland this summer and it baffles me that some Canadians may view Newfoundlanders as lazy or lacking in intelligence (I mean...does anyone really believe that?)...it took some very strong, smart and far from lazy people to land on that rock x # of years ago and survive -period - let alone prosper.
    I have visited a number of provinces over the years and really feel Newfoundland and Nova Scotia are by far the most beautiful - ok PEI too and have the warmest, friendliest people.
    I know you don't need kudos from anyone but I just thought you should know that reading crap like that doesn't only annoy Newfoundlanders...it annoys other Canadians as well. I certainly don't want to be lumped in with that idiot and would not want him to represent the rest of us mainlanders!

    Cheers beer
  •  Thu, Dec 15 2005, 8:30 PM 55547 in reply to 55538

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    For what it's worth...

    In kindergarten and grade school, the kids who are happy get written off (by the other kids and the teachers) as stupid.

    The kids who use words that the others don't understand get written off (by the other kids and the teachers) as weird.

    The kids who find beauty in things that don't cost money get written off (by the other kids and the teachers) as losers.

    Some of those kids rage and rebel and shut themselves off from others. This can result in either a marginal existence or outrageous success.

    Some of those kids laugh and run circles around their detractors and make it a game. This can result in either a marginal existence or outrageous success.

    It's all about the individual. And if there's one thing I've managed to sort out from the novels and history and friendships I've known from the Rock - it's all about the individual. Each goes their own way. Trying to sort out somebody else's situation for them doesn't really make sense when it comes to Newfoundland, or Newfoundlanders. Or, best I can figure, for anybody.

    Love, Columbine
  •  Thu, Dec 15 2005, 8:56 PM 55548 in reply to 55538

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    sorry I had something here that was not so nice and I apologise to anyone who read it.

    angie
  •  Fri, Dec 16 2005, 5:27 PM 55549 in reply to 55538

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    I just thought you should know that reading crap like that doesn't only annoy Newfoundlanders...it annoys other Canadians as well



    Just so you all know, It really pisses off some of us yanks too! I really think we need to flood the editor, not the writer with letters. The writer needs to be fired.
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  •  Fri, Dec 16 2005, 10:07 PM 55550 in reply to 55538

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    It really pisses off this Aussie as well.

    How about we start a petition? Back pedaling won't cut it, a full and sincere apology for starts would be nice. And I mean from the editor for publishing that crap.
    "Cynical observation of others; sarcastic, humorously critical." where was the humour in that you moron?

    "Someone once described satire as being nothing more than educated insolence." I fail to see how you could call that educated.

    ~Mac.
  •  Fri, Dec 16 2005, 10:20 PM 55551 in reply to 55538

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    quote:
    In kindergarten and grade school, the kids who are happy get written off (by the other kids and the teachers) as stupid.

    The kids who use words that the others don't understand get written off (by the other kids and the teachers) as weird.

    The kids who find beauty in things that don't cost money get written off (by the other kids and the teachers) as losers.


    Ouch, I can't say I've ever written a kid off.
    I've worked in The Sexual Offences and Crimes Against Children Squad and General Duties policing, in Child Welfare with additional needs children and their families and in Early Childhood Development for the last couple of years. I've come across some challenging situations. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I certainly hope I NEVER write off a child for ANY reason. I do admit to heaving some sighs of relief when my work day is done at times however. I'm a primary care giver for much beloved 9 year old and 11 year old, and those descriptions would fit both of them, I sincerly hope THEY are never written off either.
    ~Mac (the teacher and "mother").
  •  Sat, Dec 17 2005, 7:06 AM 55552 in reply to 55538

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Aussie Girl:
    quote:
    In kindergarten and grade school, the kids who are happy get written off (by the other kids and the teachers) as stupid.

    The kids who use words that the others don't understand get written off (by the other kids and the teachers) as weird.

    The kids who find beauty in things that don't cost money get written off (by the other kids and the teachers) as losers.


    Ouch, I can't say I've ever written a kid off.
    The above reflects New Hampshire in the 1960s, and anecdotal reports by my brainiac friends from various places in the United States. There were a few stars in my school too, and Anne T is a prime example of a star.

    May you always shine, and always have some "good kids" to work with as well as being "the only one we trust" with the difficult ones!

    Love, Columbine
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