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Media Relations 1001

A series of interviews last week got me thinking about a few of the ancillary aspects of this job.

Doing interviews is one of the weird sidelines being a touring musician requires. There is no choice, really. Any band needs every ounce of publicity it can manage. Me, Sean and Alan do dozens of interviews a year. We understand quite clearly that it is at worst a necessary evil, and at best a pleasant conversation. The reality usually falls somewhere in between.

For example, morning radio requires a certain sense of humour combined with a penchant for brevity. In the gaga world of commercial radio, you will have at best two or three minutes to get it all in. You may also have to gargle a Queen song, judge a funny pet contest, crack a few jokes with the weather guy, make up a dirty limerick on the spot, or perform some other indignity. All for a good cause, one might say.

TV interviews can also be hazardous. If it is two or three of us the interviewer will invariably direct all questions to Alan. It is then up to him to share the burden as best he can; (“…wouldn’t you agree, Sean?” or “…actually, Bob was talking about just that topic the other day…”).  TV is also where we tend to get the strangest questions. It is hard not to physically react with dismay when you get tossed something strange. Often such questions either require no answer at all, or one so convoluted you hardly know where to begin. Recent examples include “Is Newfoundland an influence on your music?”, “Do you really play all those instruments?”,  “Do you guys like kids?” and a personal favourite, “You guys still play the pubs at home, right?”. (Answers: Ummm…yes, Uhhh…yes, Hmmm…, and, Errr…no.)

As a former print journalist, I rather enjoy those interviewers the most. The print reporter usually has had enough time to at least ask a question requiring a real thought or two. Although in era of many layoffs, even there the job gets harder all the time. The other day a reporter began the conversation by stating that he had (a) never heard of the band, (b) had no idea what sort of music we played, and (c) had no time to either listen to a CD or look at the website. I never saw the piece that resulted, but I can only imagine that it did little to enhance our fan base. Even so, I tend to feel a little sympathy for journalists in that situation. Many times in my TV Guide days I interviewed C, D and E-list Hollywood types I would not have recognized on my doorstep, about TV shows that I had not bothered to watch. Despite my gallant attempts to bullshit my way through those situations, I have no doubt my ridiculous questions were greeted with as much chagrin as the many we endure.

After 16 years at this, I doubt there is a journalist of any stripe in Canada whom we have not encountered. Though they are all probably well bored of us, apparently we have a reputation for being ‘good to interview’. To my mind, any aspiring rock star needs to master that skill as soon as possible. Therefore, as a way of assisting those who may find themselves in the spotlight, here are a few media relation hints, gleaned from painful experiences on both sides of the fence:

1)    You and the media need each other; therefore, even when it’s difficult, help them out. They need a good story, and they need to spend as little time at it as possible. Give them what they need: good quotes, a bit of wit, and enough hard information to fill out the details.

2)    Remember what the medium is: commercial radio likes it quick and snappy, so save the longwinded digressions for the CBC. Indie street papers want things edgier, and love a bit of profanity or a crazy road story. Daily print journalists just want the facts. Student newspapers are inherently quirky, and the funnier you are, the better the story. Give them each the material they want, and avoid unnecessary cringing when you see the results.

3)    As a rule, web site journalists have a lot more time than your average commercial journalist. Save those types for long travel days when you have the time to answer complex questions that require thoughtful answers. Careful what you say, though - things last forever on the Internet. I abandoned an interview once backstage in Edmonton (in 1997) due to a sudden attack of bees. It seemed reasonable at the time - bee stings hurt. I have since seen that incident referred to literally hundreds of times, as if I was some sort of cartoon character, hiding in ponds and puddles like Winnie the Pooh. It just refuses to die.

4)    Morning TV can be a trial for all concerned. We have done morning TV shows all over the world, and while we are probably only marginally better at it than we were a decade ago, here are a few pointers learned from my own sad and embarrassing experiences: Do not, repeat, do not, stay up all night drinking the night before. Do not perform your most difficult and heartfelt ballad at 5:30 am. Memorize where you are and to whom you are speaking; write it on your hand if necessary. Interpret stage directions literally. Do not comment on news events of the day about which you know nothing. Agree on any arrangement alterations before hand. Embrace the offer of makeup. Smile and look perky - remember, no one cool is watching, but your antics will be witnessed by thousands of people, including your Nan, your Grade 2 teacher, and every ex-girlfriend you have. They will be examining you from a critical perspective. Do not give them any more ammo.

5)    If all else fails, ignore the questions. No matter what the reporter wants, you need to discuss the new album, the gig that night, or the DVD release on Friday. Pointed looks, a furiously gesturing director or an awkward silence should not prevent you from getting the word out.

6)    When in doubt, keep smiling. Once they see the fear in your eyes you are doomed.

Published Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:20 AM by nicopop
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olgarinco said:

Bob, you really should talk more during concerts....this was very entertaining:-) I particularly enjoyed your paragraph about morning TV. I've only done a couple local radio interviews for upcoming community theatre shows myself, and I fully agree with your comments in #5!

I just wanted to say thanks for all you by's do..it makes many of us happy that we have enjoyed your music for 16 years! I saw you guys lots in the mid to late 90s (I'm from NB, and studied at Mac and UVIC) and then I moved to the US...I was thrilled to see you in Cedar Falls and look forward to seeing you in Virgina. Have a nice summer.
March 19, 2009 11:25 AM
 

marikochurst said:

Great post Bob!! It's very good (and very funny)! You have a wonderful sense of humour & I agree, you should talk more during concerts. Your voice is incredible & needs to be heard other than through song. :)

Wonderful shows everytime, keep up the amazing work!! Here's to another 16 years!!

Keep up the wonderful work. Cheers!
March 19, 2009 12:01 PM
 

brittany bure said:

hi bob you are so cool i live in DilDo can you come see me some time ps brittany burt bob your band si cool
March 19, 2009 12:08 PM
 

brittany burt said:

hi bob i got msn if you have msn brittany180@msn.com add me on your msn send me a e-mile at brittany180@msn.com ok bye
March 19, 2009 12:19 PM
 

brittany burt said:

hi bob i got msn if you have msn brittany180@msn.com add me on your msn send me a e-mile at brittany180@msn.com ok bye
March 19, 2009 12:20 PM
 

Mysticshadowlady said:

hey Bob.... excellent post and very true. Pointed and...hilarious as always. You never disappoint.  And yes...you should speak more.  You have a beautiful voice and a wonderful wit. Only a few of us ever see it.

Cheers
March 19, 2009 12:23 PM
 

Wendy said:

You got great reviews from the Windsor paper, not sure if you were interviewed but the reporter seemed to luv you guys! Great show, who wouldn't?
March 19, 2009 12:50 PM
 

SawyerFinn said:

A wonderfully insightful read to start my morning off right, though I'm still cleaning the coffee spots off of my computer screen after reading your advice in #4...Sheer GOLD that one!  ^_^
March 19, 2009 1:03 PM
 

gbsgirl said:

Very funny and a fun glimpse behind-the-scenes.  Always enjoy reading your Soundtracks.
March 19, 2009 1:32 PM
 

TinaMack said:

LOLLLLLLL!!! heehee...
March 19, 2009 3:15 PM
 

SpringsFans said:

Ah.. a topic close to my heart, dear Bob!

After surviving 20-some years in the TV biz (mostly on Morning TV shows, no less!), I absolutely "second" all of your thoughts on media interviews.  It truly is an art, considering some of the morons who are employed in the media these days.

I've met many a celebrity in my time--from A-listers to the barely known.  The only ones who truly impressed me were the ones who, once the cameras were off, were genuinely "real" people.  There are a small handful that fall into that category, sadly.

The best examples I can think of are comedians, who I would suspect are similar to touring musicians in that they constantly wake up in some strange town--unable to remember where they are.  There are a couple of big name comics who were complete idiots. Wouldn't speak to anyone but their entourages. (Who in the heck needs an entourage for AM television in small-market America, anyway?)

But for every idiot, there were the nice guys who you looked forward to seeing again on a repeat visit.  Bobcat Goldtwait and Jim Brewer instantly come to mind.  Class act guys who were completely normal once the lights went off.  Their stage personas are an "act".. not who they really are.. and for that I will always think fondly of them.
March 19, 2009 4:41 PM
 

Helenwheels said:

Ahhh, seee....no wonder you looked like such a natural in that AM TV video Glenn posted a while back...you've got it all figured out.
March 19, 2009 7:05 PM
 

Benemach said:

In our quest to be clever, sometimes we seek to share something important in a profound manner. We do so in part because we’re inspired, and/or because we value the affirming feedback. Sometimes we hit the target, often we don’t, and occasionally, we claim that others also might be guilty of this strange behaviour.

So I’d just like to say this. I love and respect Great Big Sea, and I value the insights you share – in your performances, in your music, in your comments and in your outlook.

During these darkened days and uncertain times, you help to share and sustain hope. And you help us to recognize and to celebrate joy, while remaining mindful of our world, our opportunities and our responsibilities.

So thank you Bob, and the rest. And thanks for helping to educate us on how to better communicate the most important things. As before and always, may God bless you and protect your families, friends and fans around the world. Keep it up. - 30 -
March 19, 2009 9:15 PM
 

arctangent said:

Great post Bob!  As someone who must be media trained as part of my job, your post was right on and brought back some cringe worthy memories of my worst practice and real interviews.  Ahh...the necessary evils of the free press!
March 19, 2009 11:20 PM
 

clownfish said:

Sooooo there is a plan when you are being interviewed, eh.  When you came through Winnipeg I caught the concert but no interviews-however...I caught one tv interview, weeks later, as a  program was doing their favorite interviews of the year.
You and Alan were being interviewed-and yes, most of the questions WERE being directed at Alan,,,,then came the part where he had you talk about the shower you were led off to take at a previous visit to  Brandon, in south Manitoba....quite a story, and rather than give your grade 2 teacher or any exes some ammo I'll leave the rest to YOUR memory. Great sound track today. I must say that what I enjoyed about the last 2 print interviews that you and Sean have given, that ended up in the OKP board, is that you both shared stuff about the future plans that EVERYONE is wondering about!  Thanks
March 19, 2009 11:25 PM
 

Momma Bear said:

*rofl* thats hilarious...I ate a whole can of cashews just reading it..You're awesome!!!!
March 20, 2009 12:26 AM
 

Wishn4CA said:

I'm still chuckling as I type, so if there are spelling errors..they are your fault.  Great post.

On a side note, we met briefly after the St. John's show and I want you to know that I watched as you stopped the whole photo "process" and lifted a little boy onto the pool table in order for him to be on the same "level" as you during the picture.  I was soooo impressed by your kindness and thoughtfulness.  And knowing the little boy...you were much talked about for the rest of the weekend -- his mother even ended up having to buy him a small accordian before they left town (just so he could be more like Bob).

Job well done!!
March 20, 2009 11:20 AM
 

AnneInPhilly said:

That was a very interesting read, Bob. I never thought of the differences in the types of interviews before. I really enjoyed this one. Of course, I enjoy all of the Soundtracks!

Anne
March 21, 2009 3:38 PM
 

mozartlesbabines said:

I've always admired people who could play music like you do, and I've also always admired people who could put their thoughts and observations into words with intelligence and humour.  I now have two reasons to admire you. :-)  I truly enjoy reading your posts and I more than agree with those previous comments that state that you should talk more during your shows.  Your voice, as well as what you have to say, would definitely bring an interesting extra to the shows.

I had never thought of interviews from your point of view, seeing them only from my viewer or listener perspective. When journalists seek people to ask questions  about the same yearly boring topics such as " Are you tired of snow?" or "What is your opinion about the many potholes?" ( I live in Québec!) I usually run the other way.  But if I ever get caught up by one of them, I'll try to remember your advice!;-)

By the way, I went to Mtl for your show on March 20th.  It was worth the 5 hour ride!

Zlie
March 22, 2009 2:32 PM
 

Stephanie said:

Your music is based on Newfoundland?  Wow!  I never would've guessed!  (Just kidding.)  That interviewer must have been one of the ones who had never heard of GBS before.

But good tips.  And funny!  A very enjoyable read - and something to keep in mind of any of us ever number among the rich and famous.
March 22, 2009 2:56 PM
 

Nicole said:

I'm not surprised that Alan gets most of the questions.  He is often viewed as the face of Great Big Sea.  I agree with those who think Alan's awesome, but I do get irritated by those who like him so much that they don't give you and Sean full credit.

One thing I can say for Alan, though, is that he tends to be good about deflecting the spotlight away from himself.  In concerts, he tends to make a point of pointing to you or Sean and applauding your talents.  Regarding interviews, you said that he tends to redirect questions to you or Sean.  Alan's aware that he's many people's favourite, but he's also aware that he is only one man in a three or five (depending on how you count it) member ensemble.

Regarding interviews in general, I appreciate the not-so-fun work that you guys do for the band.  There are things that suck with every job, but I thank you for persevering through the sucky aspects of yours.
March 22, 2009 3:04 PM
 

Nudles23 said:

Amen, Bob!

As a media relations person who has worked in pro-sports for 15 years, I agree on all points.  I think I need to pass this along to our team.
March 22, 2009 5:54 PM
 

NJPIRATE said:

Bob,

You're such a brilliant writer, when you write the book on your band experiences, I'll be the first in line.

Howard
March 23, 2009 9:34 PM
 

Mike321 said:

Greetings Bob,

I agree with NJPIRATE - you should write a book about you and the band.  I would purchase it as well.  I also agree with one of the previous posters that you should engage in banter with Sean and Alan during shows, you have much to offer I believe.  I sat in the front row at the latest London show and am of the opinion that you are a very talented musician - and dapper to boot.

Take care Bob,

Mike
March 24, 2009 4:18 AM
 

mairzydotes said:

Hi Bob,
Well-put and wonderful advice for dealing with the media, for sure.  4 and 6 make me laugh because they come in handy dealing with teenaged offspring/recalcitrant patients - to quote you "They will be examining you from a critical perspective. Do not give them any more ammo." and "When in doubt, keep smiling. Once they see the fear in your eyes you are doomed.".  Maybe you should work on publishing 'Bob's axioms for life' or somesuch - I'm sure it would be priceless.  

As others have mentioned, hope to see and hear more from you on stage later in the year.  That sly grin always makes us wonder what you're thinking...if accordions could talk...

Good luck in all your endeavors this spring, and thanks for keeping us posted with your thoughts from time to time!

Mare

March 24, 2009 9:07 AM
 

eaststj said:

I liked Alan's 21 ?'s interview quite a lot & your interview about your reading in the children's library was prob the best ever.  Alan's interview on Meetings w Remarkable People on Sun was good.  Certainly I remember the end of Rankin St days when Sean did interviews saying that they were regrouping & bringing NL music worldwide - very prophetic.  You guys had the plan & achieved it.  
March 24, 2009 9:30 AM
 

Carol said:

Bob, you are such a gifted writer.  I really enjoy reading your Soundtrack.  Thank you so much for your contributions - I love your insights!
Keep it up!!
March 27, 2009 1:07 AM
 

CharlesGBS said:

i personnally have worked with the rich and famous in the Sports business, and have met the people you speak of Bob. In all honesty, after I had left Scotiabank Place about a year or so ago, i realized that truly, some celebs can be great people; however, the select few who are jerks can be overwhelming. Not to mention after every concert, or spprting event I worked, the media swarmed the damn place looking for a juicy story. In the end iI realized thatno matter how well known you get, someone will always want the details on what you do--- whetherit's your friends or right up to the frigging' media.

Cheers Bob!
April 1, 2009 3:38 AM
 

clownfish said:

As I watched the pre-Juno interview show, it appeared that Alan did that thing where he deflected  the question on to you--that was funny to think that was just like the move you mentioned, here!
April 1, 2009 10:42 PM
 

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