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Soundtrack - Some Shameful Self-indulgence

During a reworking of this website a few weeks ago, I took a look at the layout of my blog, and realized that the comments section was actually working.  And so to complete my slide into self-indulgence, I thought I would answer some of the questions, say thanks for the compliments, and debate the cantankerous.

Marie, Sherry & others, re. 54-40 - It was interesting how many readers of our site had been at the late-90s show in Guelph I spoke about in this entry. We played over 150 gigs that year – that particular Stardust Picnic was memorable for many reasons, our performance being none of them. I am happy you are all still around, and doubly pleased that so many of you realized just how stunning 54-40’s performance really was. Even now I can see Neil Osborne Standing onstage in front of the mic during the sudden hurricane, the wind & rain blasting him like a fire-hose, and him just blinking, a little irritated, like someone standing next to a smoky campfire.

Todd & Ana, re. Bothy Band – Todd took exception to my suggestion that the title of ‘The Maids of Mitchelstown’ somehow related to the actual mood of the pieces. I realize that the two are probably unrelated, in the sense that the jig ‘Auntie Mary’ does not really refer to someone’s mother’s sister. On the other hand, to me it makes a kind of poetic sense. As always, it’s all about the context, isn’t it - once you have decided on what the tune means, you tend to make the title fit that emotion. I do anyway. I am not sure when and why I decided that ‘The Maids’ is the epitome of quiet despair, but now I am firmly convinced.  For her part, Ana linked the tune (albeit obliquely) to Led Zeppelin. I think she has something there: Zeppelin were well aware of bands like the Bothies, and made no secret of their admiration. Listen to the bass and guitar solos in ‘Ramble On’ sometime, and you will hear exactly what I mean. There is a loneliness and sadness in that song that comes from the same place as the Bothy Band.

To Anne in Philly, re: the Tannahill Weavers – I have never actually seen the Tannahill Weavers live, and I have had lots of chances. To be honest, I am afraid I will not like them. As I have fallen in love with the performance of many a band whose records I have disliked, so have I been disappointed in the performance of many bands whose albums I loved. For that reason, I have decided to let my love for the Weavers go unrequited. There should always be some mystery in life.

Rabellka, re. Cornershop – Your comment has left me confused; do you agree, that (a) a bosom makes a useful pillow,  (b) Ben Ayres should learn to love St. John’s, and/or (c) Fatboy Slim’s remix of ‘Asha’ is a thousand times better than the original? Actually, all options are acceptable, I suppose.

Hangin Johnny, re. Ryan’s Fancy – Johnny wondered why the Newfoundland Irish band Ryan’s Fancy’s albums are so hard to find. Unfortunately, most of their records were recorded for the Audat/Boot label, a Toronto based label that released many Newfoundland and other Canadian folk records in the 1970s and early 80s. The label went bust some time ago, and took the band’s catalogue with them into bankruptcy oblivion. Various corporately wobbly labels have purchased the band’s masters and re-released Ryan’s Fancy albums from time to time, but they do so without permission, paying any royalties, or otherwise acknowledging the band’s efforts. For that reason, we encourage you to buy ‘Songs From The Shows’, the only album from which Dennis, Fergus, and Dermot’s family receive any recompense.

Dave & Frank, re. The Killers -  Dave helpfully suggested that if I was such a fan of Franz Ferdinand and The Killers I would like alt-country heroes Son Volt. It is an interesting suggestion – I cannot see any similarity at all. On the other hand, to me there is an obvious connection between every artist discussed in my blog. Which goes to my over-arching theme – songs reach us in funny ways, and therein lies the mystery and the beauty of it all. Dave sees the Killers and Son Volt as coming from the same place, while I see the Killers and the Dubliners as equal parts artistry and gutter. We are both right.  Frank asked, apropos of nothing, if it was me his wife had glimpsed recently in a Bahamas pub. While I travel widely, I was not in said pub. On the other hand, in the past couple of years, I have been recognized at an ice-cream truck in Rome, loitering outside a dollar store in Nice, in a ticket line-up at Disney World, and while standing at a urinal in Galway. All four of these people were utterly astonished when I agreed that I was, in fact, myself.  My larger point being, while in Frank’s situation, it was not the case, it was entirely possible. Frank’s wife should have asked.

Z, re. Shanneyganock – Z, a little churlishly perhaps, wondered if as producer of an album, my own perceptions of what was valuable about the band outweighed theirs. The answer is an unqualified yes. In my experience, an act hires a particular producer because they wish to avail of their ears and ideas. If Shanneyganock did not want to listen to me, or agree with my suggestions, they had the option of hiring someone else, doing it themselves, or ditching the song. GBS has had several producers. Some we liked, some we didn’t. Regardless, each one was hired based on their proven ability to bring ideas, arrangements, sounds, etc., to the table, elements which we were unable to create ourselves. My assumption is that anyone who hires me desires the same. Otherwise, why bother?

Anonymous, via an e-mail – Sometime ago, I received an email from a reader who declared this whole exercise to be pompous in the extreme. Again, I offer an unqualified ‘yes’. Unless you are solving cancer or something, every blog is an exercise in self-indulgence. I am talking about my records, after all, with the underlying assumption being that my opinions about them have some value to the world at large. What could be more pompous than that?

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Published Friday, March 30, 2007 11:06 AM by Bob
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CandaceO said:

Ah Bob, I have to admit that my form of shameful indulgence happens to be these little blurbs you create. It is an insight to the musical world from the perspective of a musician, so thanks for shamefully indulging yourself.

Can't wait to read more, it's nice to see what's going on in that head of yours. By the way, if anything ever happens to GBS and you need a new career path, come teach at Memorial, we could use some decent professors as many of our current are well, more outdated and stale than a loaf of month old bread.

Cheers!
March 30, 2007 12:09 PM
 

Bonnie-the-Bodhranista said:

Indulge away!  I've always enjoyed reading about how a musician views the music world, as well as the creative process behind the music.  As a virtual outsider this sort of thing has always intrigued me.

The music you've written about has either brought back memories for me and caused me to go through my music collection to listen to some oldies or try to track down music from bands that are unknown to me.  I enjoy having my musical horizons broadened and I can see my collection growing ever larger as a result.  Not that I mind at all.  It just means that it's going to be hell to move what I do have now across the country from Chilliwack to St. John's.

Keep on writing because it is indeed interesting.  I don't find it at all pompous because you aren't pontificating to the masses.  I see it as you talking about your musical tastes, influences, and memories, and I enjoy reading it all!

Cheers from Chilliwack BC!
Bonnie
March 30, 2007 12:56 PM
 

TinaCap said:

Is that it?

March 30, 2007 1:27 PM
 

TheYoungSpaniard said:

Gotta love shameless self promotion!

Really, Bob, I do enjoy your journals. I've learned a lot about bands I've never heard of, and learned even more about bands I love!
And I do so agree with Candace's suggestion about you teaching at Memorial; I'm graduating in a few years, and very much considering an English course at the university. You'd bring new definition to "Hot for Teacher", I'm sure. ;)

Scholarly ramblings aside, your blogs are a very good read. Not pompous in any way! If they were, you wouldn't have such a "loyal" army of support commenting blog after blog!
March 30, 2007 3:51 PM
 

nova said:

Well I must admit that I have bought a few of the albums after reading your interesting reviews and even went to see a live performance of one of them.  So keep it up -- if anything, you're adding to commerce and international trade.

As an aside, a while back some of us were "channeling" you to review a U2 album, and the discussion so overtook the thread that the administrator finally posted your "Under the Influence" radio interview where you talk about Sunday Bloody Sunday and love for U2.  I always knew you were a hell of a guy but after that interview, I thought -- wow -- he likes my other favorite band as much as I do.  I've actually always found similarities between the two bands especially to your dedication of touring and it being all about the band and not the individual performer...so how about giving it a go -- they have a lot to choose from and I'd love to hear a musician's perspective.
March 30, 2007 10:47 PM
 

Ldyblade said:

As The Young Spaniard remarked, these blogs are a way to learn of bands I otherwise would have never found on my own.  I appreciate your time and greatly enjoy your insightful musings.  Thank you.
March 30, 2007 11:35 PM
 

Rabellaka said:

Although there were no new bands to explore in this one, I think it's great that you managed to get back to some of the people who posted comments... even if one of the names was misspelled, and some people thought I wrote the comment! (I'm pretty sure I've never posted a comment before, but I checked the one in question, and it was definately someone else.)

Nova's comment about listening to new music from these blog postings goes for me as well. I've decided to broaden my CD collection from the two or three bands represented so far, and I've started with a few "Best of" CDs, including the Pogues. Strangely, I was looking for a Barra MacNeils CD, but the music store didn't have any!

Please continue your blog, as this is the first time I've heard of many of these bands, and I'm sure there are many more great musicians that I haven't heard of yet.
March 30, 2007 11:50 PM
 

imartemus said:

Newf by Proxy : As much as I enjoy your musical ruminations, I have especially enjoyed the stories behind them. Diggin' through the cut-out bins, beat up old vehicles, a single tape on endless play and jumping out of burning barns have enriched my appreciation of these posts. With the arts, we all like what we like and vice versa and justify our tastes as we will; but at the same time, we all get from A to Z on our on unique paths. For me the pleasure has been tagging along on your particular yellow brick road. The blog, and podcasts too, have been both forthright and self effacing. Good on ya. As you seem fond of story songs, I'm wondering if you've heard much of Danny O'keefe. "In Northern California (Where The Palm Tree Meets The Pines)", from American Roulette, might just tickle your fancy. All of his records are full of rich and clever depictions of the frailty of our existence. After Dylan, he might be the best songwriter in the Lower 50. But, hey, that's one that I like. More blogs, more podcasts, more Great Big Sea.
March 31, 2007 12:37 AM
 

Emelyn said:

Hey there,
My 5 year old went to your show in Madison, WI (his first GBS concert).
He thoroughly enjoyed it. After the show, we stood outside your bus hoping to catch a glimpse of you guys but you were all on the bus ready to leave for Columbus. He was bummed until some guy (don't know his name) took his guitar on the bus and everyone signed it. He wanted to tell you thanks!!
He is so intrigued that you play so many different instruments and I wanted to ask which instrument did you first pick up. Did you take lessons for each instrument or are you just that musically inclined/talented? I've noticed in the short amount of time that we've known GBS music, that you can play the violin, banjo, accordion, recorder (is that what you call it?), the guitar, etc.. I'm sure I've missed something.
Oh, and have you ever heard of the Gipsy Kings? We went to one of their concerts in Dallas, Tx. They're great.
I'm pretty new to the Kitchen Party so if you've already answered some of these questions, oops!

March 31, 2007 10:00 PM
 

Mags said:

You guys are so talented! If you ever need someone to write your band's biography, I'd LOVE too!

March 31, 2007 10:56 PM
 

coasterbob said:

Hay Bob, very interesting comments about other bands.  I am curious as to whether you've heard/seen The Elders?    I realize they are primarily Celtic folk/rock, but appear to be one helluva live act!    Also any thoughts another band The Saw Doctors?     I am so looking forward to my FIRST GBS show on 4/13 in Collingwood, NJ.

Thanks, another Bob
April 1, 2007 3:40 PM
 

ana said:

Bob, I like your insightful comparison of Bothy Band to Led Zep.  And though I never noticed it before, there is a similarity to the feeling their songs produce.  Though I must admit that in my teens, whenever I listened to Led Zep, I was lets say, slightly under the influence of some very good smoke.  So now, when I hear one of their songs I am taken back to that time and I just smile. Wonder if the Bothy Band would sound as great and "mystical" if this was also the case with them - probably not.  Although what I get from some of their songs is more "wistfulness" rather than sadness.  Keep posting Bob.  Your opinions and stories are fun and interesting to read, especially to "older" music fans.
April 1, 2007 6:44 PM
 

AnneInPhilly said:

Bob,

So happy you decided to react to some of the comments. That was a pleasant surprise. We have missed your wit in the OKP. This is a definite plus. Between Alan's From the Road, your Soundtracks and the podcasts, we're in GBS heaven. Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts with us. Looking forward to seeing you in Harrisburg and Collingswood.

Anne
April 1, 2007 8:23 PM
 

Jess said:

I love your journals Bob. Keep up the good work. I'm looking forward to seeing Shanneyganock in Toronto this month and can't wait to hear the new stuff.

Cheers.
Jess
April 2, 2007 1:55 PM
 

Rebekah said:

Hi, Bob!  I'm the one you got confused with Rabellaka.  Sorry, didn't mean to confuse you with my comment.  I was agreeing with your post in general, really not one specific thing.  I'll try to be more clear in the future.  Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read our comments and respond!  It's always good to hear what you have to say.
April 2, 2007 2:00 PM
 

z said:

Well, I suppose I was being a little bit difficult, but let it be known that if our band was in a position to hire a producer, Bob would be the top choice.  Why?  A knowledgeable and creative ear is always an asset.  So no disrespect was intendend.  Plus, the quote "if you are going to go ‘forward into the past’, you need to use every trick in the book", is so excellent and true that I'd give the job to anyone who said it!

The blogs are excellent, and the comments for this one are a testament that people, (both fans and musicians), really enjoy them.  Keep up the good work, and keep them coming.

Zzzzz.......
April 2, 2007 4:04 PM
 

amercat said:

Every genuine audiophile I know has their favorites CDs and albums that they go back to over and over again.  Most of them enjoy sharing them with you because they hope you will get as much pleasure out of them as they have.  To my way of reading your blog, this has been your intention.  

When someone tells me about or loans me their personal favorite CDs or a CD they found new or interesting, it's always a learning experience.  You learn a lot about a person by the kind of music they like and by finding out why they like it.  You get to experience the best stuff that someone else came to through a lot of trial and error.  You get to listen to something you might otherwise never run across.

My first Great Big Sea CD, Sea of No Cares, came as a loan from a friend.  That led to all the other GBS CDs, Shanneyganock, Chris Andrews, the Punters, Ryan's Fancy, and others and a genuine appreciation for and enjoyment in the Newfoundland sound.  Now I've returned the favor and introduced many others to this gem.

Keep the blog coming!  
April 3, 2007 6:35 PM
 

Laura~Gail said:

Unfortunally, being the same age as the band, I have not been able to see many concerts. But luckily, my older brothers got me interested in GBS as they used to live in Newfoundland before we moved to New Brunswick,and as I "borrowed" my brothers CD's. But I know for a fact that he was wondering how do you hear of all these bands that my family and I,who are very musical people, never heard of before. Hearing you talk about them made my brother and I listen to the ones we knew more carefully.
April 10, 2007 8:21 PM
 

ana said:


Keep posting Bob.  Your opinions and stories are fun and interesting to read, especially to "older" music fans.  (ie:  the ones closer to your age) cause I assue we're about the same age.l
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